
Global growth is slowing, debt burdens are rising and climate pressures are intensifying, what does this mean for the future of economies? In this episode, Dr. Roberta Gatti from World Bank and Shahrukh Wani from IGC explore some of the most pressing questions shaping growth today: the changing role of industrial policy, how governments can promote stronger business environments and why data and evidence are crucial for effective policymaking. They discuss the MENAAP region’s debt challenges, the risks and opportunities from trade realignment, and the importance of measuring what works – and admitting what does not. With insights from one of the World Bank’s leading economists, this conversation offers valuable perspectives for policymakers, researchers and anyone interested in the future of growth.

Shahrukh Wani is the Senior Country Manager for Zambia at the International Growth Centre, where he leads research-policy partnerships to support economic development. His work focuses on state capability, data use in government and policy reforms with experience across Africa and South Asia.

Roberta Gatti is the Chief Economist for the Middle East, North Africa, Afghanistan and Pakistan at the World Bank, where she oversees economic analysis and operations across the region. She has led major initiatives like the World Bank’s Human Capital Index and published widely on growth, labor markets and social inclusion.